Facebook fan pages (also known as public profiles) have gone through some significant changes in the past few months, so I thought it would be a good time to review the Good, Bad and the Ugly of the pages. Overall, I think that fan pages have gone through significant changes for the better, but have some significant limitations.  Here are my thoughts:

The Good

  • Status update – A newly added feature is the ability to update your fan page’s status.  This is a great way to stay in contact with fans by Facebook Statususing a less direct method than sending an email.  The status update can be used to post new news, articles, happenings, events, etc.
  • Page recommendations - Facebook now recommends fan pages to people based on their other interests, and based on other people they know and what pages they join.  This allows your fan page to reach new people who might not have otherwise known about your business or page.
  • Targeted ads – Facebook pages can be advertised using very targeted ads on a pay per click or pay per impression basis. The ads can be targeted based on demographics, keywords, company name, job title, etc.Facebook ad
  • Inline fanning – Newly added, this feature allows you to add an option to your Facebook ads, that allow people to join your fan page directly from the ad, without even clicking through to your page. (bad because they don’t see your content, but good because they can join more easily)
  • Various landing pages - Based on where and how you are promoting your fan page, you can direct people to various landing pages.  For example, if you are targeting marketers with your ad, you can direct them to a page speaking to marketers.  And you can direct everyone else to a different landing page.
  • Applications - There are a lot of applications that Facebook developers have created to make your fan page more dynamic and interesting.
  • FBML (Facebook Markup Language) – Facebook’s version of HTML, allows you to create boxes on your page that are more tailored to your needs.  For example, you can create an RSVP form or an email registration form.
  • Insights – Facebook Insights show you how much your fans are interacting with your page, what the demographics of the fans are, and your overall “post quality.”
  • Insights

The Bad

  • Inviting people – The only people you can invite to your fan page directly through Facebook (other than sending them a link) are your current friends.  There are many people I know through networking that I would like to send an invitation to my fan page, but I cannot unless I am friends with them.  Seems to be a disconnect to me. (UGLY)
  • Contacting people – There is no way to email all your fans.  The only way to contact all your fans is to send an “update”, which a lot of people ignore. (UGLY)
  • Events – There is no way to create an event from a fan page.  You can create one from your personal profile, but then there is no way to invite the fans from your fan page.  This is a HUGE limitation in my mind… as a business, why wouldn’t you be able to create an event to invite your fans to?? (UGLY)
  • Notifications - Facebook doesn’t notify you when there is a new comment, a “like” or fan on your page, so you need to check back frequently to ensure you don’t miss what’s happening on the page.  This seems silly, as this functionality is available with personal profiles, so adding it to fan pages should be easy, and certainly useful. (UGLY)
  • New fans – The fan pages don’t tell you when you have a new fan on your fan page.  You can also not even view your fans in the order they have joined, to be able to contact new fans.
  • Source - There is no way to find out how people came across your page.  Having something like Google Analytics on a Facebook page would help businesses make better use of the fan pages.
  • Contact - There is no way for people to contact the Page Admin automatically through the page, unless you have listed your contact information on the page.  There should be a button to click to contact the Admin directly.
  • Connect with Twitter – There are now applications that allow you to update your Facebook status from Twitter (Tweetdeck, Seesmic Desktop, etc.), but those applications can only update your personal profile status, not your fan page status.
  • Blog posts – On a personal profile, you can connect your blog to your profile so it creates a new note when you add a new post.  This acts as a status update to your friends.  However, there is no way to do this on a fan page (you can connect your blog to your fan page using Social RSS, but it doesn’t appear as a note/status update, so doesn’t update your fans).

If it weren’t for the ability to update your fan page status, I would prefer groups over fan pages.  The “ugly” items are too limiting.

What do you think of Fan pages?  Anything good or bad I missed?

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  • Kasia
    Rachel, great post. thanks for sharing.
    Do you know if a "fan page" admin can send invites to its fan page's fans to become fans of another fan page? (as part of cross promotion)
  • Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately, no, you can't do that (another
    limitation with fan pages)
  • I am in utter amazement that we can't bulk mail a fan page . One key note you missed is that with fans pages you can ad as many as you like when groups your are limited and friends .
    check out my blog on Social Marketing Strategies to Make Facebook A Contact Cash Machine at http://mikeb360.com
  • Hi Rachel,
    I just came across your article while googling "update facebook fan page status"... LOL I'm not sure what triggers something ending up in the status? I posted to the wall, thinking it woudld update the status, but no. So I deleted the wall post, cleared the status and tried again... but no. I had something I really wanted to keep at the top of the page (it may be because I included a picture???).

    But, anyway, I think you're right on. I think the fan page is an awesome advertising tool and we've done well with ours.

    The only ugly that I'd add to your list is that we encourage users to post photos to our wall. But if we comment on them, it assumes our personal identification and not our fan page ID. So people may or may not recognize us under our real, versus business, name. It would be nice if it automatically defaulted to your business name for any interactions you do via your fan page.

    Thanks again.
  • How do you add a comments box to web site that has a fan page: http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/C... ? In other words, if I have a fan page I can add a fan box but I can't figure out how to add a comments box without creating a separate Facebook application?
  • I'm not sure I understand your question. Sorry, try again? Feel free to
    email me at rachel (at) rachel-levy (dot) com
  • My web site http://www.twoknobbytires.com/ has a Facebook fan/business page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Two-Knobby-Tires/... . I added a Facebook fan box to the home page but want to add a Facebook comments box too. However, it seems like the only way to add a comments box is to create a Facebook application that is separate from the fan/business page: http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/C... . It does not make sense that a business has to have two Facebook pages: one for the fans and one for Facebook Connect. I have added a disqus comment box to the home page but can't connect that to the fan/business page either because it also requires a Facebook application. I prefer not to create a separate Facebook application.
  • Unfortunately, I don't know the answer. Sorry I couldn't help you!
  • "Applications - There are a lot of applications that Facebook developers have created to make your fan page more dynamic and interesting."

    Well, I'm creating a fan page right now, and I can't find any good app available for fan pages. No way to get Picasa photos or Dailymotion videos on a fan pages, for example, as you can only add those apps to a FB profile... :/
    I'm also looking for a list of all fanpages-friendly apps on FB, but can't find one.

    To respond to earlier comments, you can create an anonymous account to manage only pages (the link is on the FB homepage when you're not logged in, below the sign-in form, but it's pretty tiny). And you can add admin rights to other accounts (such as your personnal one) later.
  • synergysurfco
    The event limitation is insanely frustrating...thanks for the content:) Nice to know I'm not the only one with these concerns.
    Cheers,
    Greg
    http://www.SynergySurfCo.com
  • Thanks for this article. I thought it was me being facebook-challenged regarding fan page limitations. So I'll stick to my regular facebook landing page to let people know about my Internet radio show.

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  • joyt
    I have also been directed to turn off all ability to comment on our FB page for work. I have the wall turned off, but once a person is a "fan" the still have the ability to comment on an entry. Anyway to turn it off or go around it? Someone suggested using boxes instead?
  • I don't think there is any way to turn this off, unfortunately. Obviously you know I think they comment ability should be left turned ON. But, how about just letting your management know that you will delete any comments you think are inappropriate?
  • Rachel

    I have a new public Fan Page for my art "Shawn Ardoin Art". How do I make it searchable on search engines/Google? For example, my friends Fan Page, who is a photographer, comes up on a Google search when I put the title of her page in. When I search mine, my Facebook Fan page doesn't come up Aloha!
  • How long has your page been around? It should just get indexed automatically.
  • Another issue is that Facebook fan pages don't allow you to publish to your wall from inside an application. For instance, we allow uVizz users to publish videos directly to their walls. However, we are unable to publish videos to our fan page wall. Publishing to a wall can only be done if it is your personal wall. Won't work with a fan page, even if you're an admin.
  • I started by creating a Group for my business Hire Profile. I am now feeling that a fan page is the way go to. When i do a search in fb for "hire profile" I only get the Group to come up. How do I find fan pages and/or how do I make sure my new fan page is searchable?
  • Nancy - I have seen that Facebook is buggy with searches. It's not just you. When you search though, the results show tabs depending on the type of result. So, there's a tab for "Pages", and your new fan page should be there. Hope that helps.
  • Meggin- on fan pages there is an option to 'add to my page's favourites', when you click on it it prompts you to choose which page if you are admin on several.

    We are rebuilding our facebook presence after we had had a 'personal profile' for many years which just got hacked and pulled- the facebook admins have not replied to our please to re0instate which i think is probably part of a crack down on organisations having personla profiles. So we are building a 'fan' page but it is so much harder to accumulate fans than it was to gather 'friends'. Any tips would be welcome. The page is here:
    http://www.facebook.com/s.php?ref=search&sid;=4...
  • Meggin
    I am currently managing a FB page for our store and would like to know if it is possible for my page to become a fan of another page. I would like to promote some other businesses and organizations in our community, but I can only seem to become a fan through my personal account (that is the admin account of my page). Thanks!
  • Jon Hughes
    Thanks for the reply. I agree...I typically wouldn't want to shut down comments but our administration is a little nervous about leaving it open. I have it open now but I am really trying to watch it for any rogue fans. We will give it a try and see how it goes.
  • Jon- I was just at a conference and the CMO from Kodak said "The worst thing you can say about Kodak is nothing — we want to hear the happy faces, and the bitches and moans." -- great attitude. You can only learn from the negatives.
  • K Kings
    Question: How can I change the picture on my fan page to be different than the one on my profile page?
  • K Kings - On your fan page, click on your profile photo. And then click on the little pencil that comes up (not the words Change Picture). Then either upload or take a new photo. Good luck!
  • Jon Hughes
    I found your post while doing a search to disconnect a Facebook fan page for the school I am employed at. Is it possible to only manage a fan page without a profile being connected to it? I would like to have my personal FB page and a separate log in for the fan page only....no connection between the two and no connection between the fan page and an additional FB profile.

    Also, is it possible to turn of comments from fans completely on a fan page?

    Thanks for the post....unlike me you seem to know what you are doing!
  • Jon - It's not possible to have it completely disconnected from your personal profile unfortunately. Another downside of fan pages to add to the list! But, what I have done in the past when I want it to be completely separate, is to create a "Person" to manage it. For example, if you have a U of C fan page, create a U of C person who posts, etc to that fan page. The only problem is that Facebook technically doesn't a company to be a Person, so they may end up taking it down (I have 2 like that and haven't had any issues).

    Yes, you can turn off comments from fans. Go to Edit Page on the top left, click on the pencil to the right on Wall Settings, and click Edit. You can adjust the settings there. But, I would ask... why do you want to turn off comments? A big component of social media is that it's a 2-way conversation. So, not allowing fans to comment, goes back to old school marketing where it's just a broadcast from a company.
  • Michael FItzsousa
    I'm in the same position as Jon. I created a fan site for a work project and now need to separate it from my personal profile. If anyone becomes aware of a solution, I'd love to hear it.
  • Aaron
    I think you can create a new FB user, then make that user an admin, then remove yourself from being the admin.
  • Rachel:

    I found with HootSuite you can update status on your fanpage as well. I needed to follow a few steps to do so but it ended up working. It probably took me like 5-10 minutes to go step-by-step.

    My question for you...how many social media hotspots do you update with the same status? Do you use different status updates with your personal profiles and business profiles? How do you differentiate the updates?
    .-= CJ Bowker´s last blog ..Anthony Robbins might be onto something =-.
  • Good to know about HootSuite! Great question about updating your status in various places. Since I'm a marketer, I think about it from the consumer perspective. Do my facebook friends care about everything I'm saying on Twitter? Probably no. Do my facebook friends care about my weekly marketing tips? Probably not (I just post them on my fan page). Every time I think about something to post, I think about it that way. I do wish that I could post from Twetdeck to my fan page though, for blog posts and other items (not ALL updates, just a select few)
  • You have a lot of useful information here--but you're also missing two crucial elements. As I manage multiple Facebook pages (including one for my business at http://tr.im/AHAssociates), allow me to fill in the gaps:

    1. If you are at the top of the page and see the "share" box where you can type in an update like on your personal profile, that is not a status update in the true sense of the word. That event will only be seen on the page itself. If you want your update to appear on your fans' mini feeds, you need to change the text in the "box" in the left sidebar under the page's picture.

    2. Events can be created on pages. You need to first enable the application, and then you can manually add an event which is no different than doing such on a Facebook group. Once added, all fans will be notified.

    Your bullet points under "bad" are due to the limitation of Facebook, further proof the social networking site remains very walled. I wouldn't use the words "bad" or "ugly" though, for pages in general are a fairly new construct in Facebook's timeline and I'm sure things will be amended over time.
    .-= Ari Herzog´s last blog ..Stop Asking Students to Memorize =-.
  • Thanks for your comments Ari. Your first point is not what I'm seeing and experiencing. I update my "status" at the top of the page all the time, and see that people (myself included) it as a status update. You can tell by the comments and "likes" on my fan page (http://fan.rachel-levy.com).

    Your point on events is great... I didn't know that, and am excited to add the functionality! Which app do you use? I typed in "Event" and there were a lot of options.
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